Responsiveness summary
Information from Harbor Brook public hearing:
Transcript: Public hearing, Dec 6, 2005
for the Public Hearing held Tuesday, December 6, 2005
and the Public Comment Period (closed January 6, 2006) on the
Harbor Brook CSO Abatement Facilities Plan
and
Draft Environmental Information Document
Public informational meeting: December 6, 2005 at 6:00 p.m.
A full transcript of the meeting was recorded and is
available at the document repository libraries
(Central, Mundy and Hazard branches), on the county
web site, and copies may also be obtained by calling
Mary Gates at 435-2260 and requesting a copy. The
transcript includes the questions asked by the public
and the responses given by County representatives at
the meeting.
Meeting moderator: County WEP Commissioner Richard Elander
Those representing the County Department of Water
Environment Protection in addition to Commissioner
Elander included: Stephen Martin, Sewer Maintenance
Engineer, and consultants John Clare, Project Manager
and Chris Somerlot, Brown and Caldwell.
Among those also present were Sue A. Miller, OCDWEP;
County Legislator Ed Ryan, Steve Eidt from State DEC,
Vince Esposito from City DPW, Mary Robison, City
Engineer; representatives of CDM/C&SBob Palladine,
Bob Albright, Chris Schmidt and Bob Kukenberger and
about 25 interested citizens. See listing of attendees
in attached Appendix.
Public Hearing: December 6, 2005 at 7:00 p.m.
A full transcript of the hearing was recorded and is
available at the document repository libraries, on the
County web site, and copies may also be obtained by
calling Mary Gates at 435-2260 and requesting a copy.
The transcript includes the questions and comments of
the public speaking at the hearing. Responses to those
questions and comments not responded to at the hearing
are included herein.
Those present for the hearing were those listed above
for the public meeting and in the attached appendix.
County WEP Commissioner Richard Elander served as
hearing officer for the hearing.
1. Comment:
Resident on Park Ave. indicated his concern about the
impacts of the proposed new route for the conveyance
that uses Park Ave. He noted the buildings along Park
include a school, Sacred Heart Basilica and the
Syracuse Polish Home along with many homes and
businesses. Feels the new route impacts more people
and businesses than the County's previously proposed
route which impacted Eureka St. He suggested that the
pipe should follow the route of the existing Harbor
Brook along Sackett St., then across W. Genesee St.
(Robert Synakowski, President of Syracuse Polish Home.
Similar concerns also raised later in the hearing by
David Pilat.)
Response:
Previously the Harbor Brook Interceptor Sewer (HBIS)
followed the route of the Brook until it was re-routed
during replacement in the 1980s. At that time, the
new interceptor sewer was re-routed due to poor
subsurface conditions west of W. Genesee Street. The
original HBIS pipe had settled, and there was concern
that placing the new HBIS in the same location might
cause settlement to surrounding structures.
As a result of questions raised at the public hearing,
the County committed to re-investigate the alternate
route along the brook as suggested for the conveyance
line. (See below.) An assessment will also be made to
determine if heavy construction within this area could
cause damage to the subsurface structure that encloses
this section of Harbor Brook.
With regard to the Park Ave. route vs. the Eureka St.
route, the County has calculated that there are about
an equal number of residences that would experience
short-term construction impacts along either the Park
Ave. route or the Eureka St. route. In addition, use
of the Park Ave. to State Fair Blvd. route would
shorten overall construction time in the streets in
this area of the city. Also the County's design
engineers for the conveyance pipe have estimated that
total construction costs of the Park Ave. route would
be approximately $830,000 less than the Eureka St.
route. The cost reduction is due primarily to a
significantly shorter conveyance pipe and a reduced
number of manhole structures at bends in the sewer.
2. Comment:
Area resident indicated his interest in the project
because it provides an opportunity to improve the
neighborhoods while also improving the sewer system.
He gave four suggestions for neighborhood improvements
that the County could pursue in conjunction with the
Harbor Brook project (Suggestions have also been
discussed at TNT meetings and previous meetings with
the County):
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Install sidewalks along Grand Avenue where none currently exist.
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Repair the athletic field at Fowler High School.
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Remove three existing buildings at the corner of Grand Ave. & Delaware and create recreational space.
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Make improvements to the City's Frazer Pool so
it can be re-opened (Robert Oberst representing TNT and Neighborhood Watch).
Response:
The County has been and is open to mitigation and
amenity suggestions from the public which relate to
this construction project. The County is considering
completing the sidewalks along Grand Ave. and creating
the new recreational space at the corner of Delaware
and Grand. With the proposed pipe routing traversing
the Fowler Athletic Field and involving construction
near the school, the County is also working with
representatives of the City of Syracuse School
District and Fowler High School to coordinate and
accommodate future planned school district
improvements to the Fowler building and the athletic
fields. The County will restore all areas disturbed by
construction including the Fowler athletic fields and
will work with school officials to ensure the field
restoration is acceptable and compatible with their
schedule and plans.
The County does not know the details of the reasons
the Frazer pool is closed; however, as far as the
County making the improvements to the Frazer pool as
part of this Harbor Brook project, it is not likely.
Installation of the new conveyance pipes will not
impact the pool; therefore, it would be difficult to
justify incorporating Frazer pool as part of the
Harbor Brook project.
3. Comment:
Why does the Facilities Plan list creation of
additional sanitary sewer lines for the City to
operate and maintain as a disadvantage to sewer
separation? The City's existing sewer system has
problems as demonstrated by the recent sewer collapse
in the Midland/Colvin area. (Salendria Mabrey from the
Partnership for Onondaga Creek)
Response:
In each area where we undertake sewer separation, it
will result in the City having two systems to operate
and maintaininstead of one. Sewer separation will
not eliminate the existing aging combined sewer pipe,
but in most cases, it will be converted to use as a
stormwater sewer. The newly installed pipes will be
sanitary sewers for wastewater only. The City would
own and therefore operate and maintain both the
stormwater sewers (created in the former combined
sewers) and the newly installed sanitary sewers.
Because this increases City responsibilities, it is
cited as one of the disadvantages to sewer separation
in the Facilities Plan.
4.
The following comments were made by Aggie Lane, from
the Partnership for Onondaga Creek:
a.
Speaker indicated concern that the County is
spending $55 million to capture an additional 7% of
the flow.
Response:
The Harbor Brook service area produces 564 MG of
combined sanitary and stormwater volume on an average
annual basis. The existing combined sewer system has
capacity to convey 75% (425 MG) to Metro for
treatment. The remaining 25% (139 MG) exceeds the
capacity of the existing combined sewer system and is
discharged to Harbor Brook from 18 combined sewer
overflow points.
The County's proposed plan is designed to address
the 139 MG of excess combined sewage volume that is
discharged to Harbor Brook on an average annual basis.
The County's plan provides capture of 138 MG within
the two regional treatment facilities for either
storage or treatment. The remaining 1 MG will be
treated within the five floatable control facilities
prior to discharge.
The County's plan provides for storage and/or
treatment of 100% of the average annual combined
sewage volume that is currently discharged without
treatment to Harbor Brook.
b.
By putting both CSOs (078 & 018) that are in the
retention basin through the proposed SUNY ESF wetlands
treatment demonstration, there would only be less than
2 MG of remaining CSO volume to store at the Amy Street
Site with underground storage.
Response:
The alternative of using a wetlands treatment system
for CSOs 078 and 018 is addressed in section 3.2.2.5
of the draft Facilities Plan. Based on the volume of
the CSOs, abatement of both of these CSOs through
wetlands would require nearly all the available
acreage within the existing retention basin (est. 35
acres). The primary function of the retention basin is
to serve as stormwater retention and prevent
downstream flooding. Construction of wetlands
treatment requiring use of the entire basin could
compromise its primary function.
Additionally, wetlands treatment alone would not
adequately address floatables and bacteria. Some type
of floatables removable before the wetlands treatment
and some form of disinfection after treatment in the
wetlands would still be needed to meet ACJ
requirements.
The County has been working cooperatively with SUNY
ESF on their proposed CSO wetland treatment
demonstration project for a number of years (first
meeting held 2001). Initially ESF had considered
testing this technology in a small area along the
brook near Grand Ave. and Wilbur. At the County's
suggestion and with the willingness of SUNY ESF and
ASLF, the project was relocated to the retention
basin. Based on initial field work and sampling, ESF
requested to use flow from CSO 018 rather than 078.
There are no plans to have this demonstration project
address the complete flow of both CSOs. The research
scientists from SUNY ESF have informed us that
sampling for further design work on the demonstration
project on CSO 018 should be underway shortly.
The existing interceptor sewer between CSO 078 and CSO
009 is in need of replacement. Sections of the
interceptor have undergone settlement resulting in
reduced pipe capacity. Since the proposed pipe is a
dual use (wet weather as well as dry weather)
conveyance pipe, it will not be eliminated even if a
portion or all of CSO 018 and 078 were put through
wetlands treatment.
c.
Agree with the County plan to put in 4-5 floatables
control in the middle basin, but suggest that CSO
basins 005, 006, 006A and 007 should be separated at a
cost of $9,000,000 instead of placing conveyance pipes
connecting them to the Lower Basin RTF at a cost of
$4,000,000. Then do underground storage for CSO 003
and 004 at the State Fair Blvd. site and put
floatables control as planned on Emerson St. CSO 063.
Response:
Using figures contained in the draft facilities plan,
the cost of sewer separation within the above
mentioned basins and including CSO 008 (not mentioned
above) would be $4.4 million. The cost of conveyance
pipes along the Eureka route to the lower basin RTF
would be $3.0 million. The revised route proposed for
Park Ave. would reduce the conveyance costs by an
estimated $830,000 resulting in a conveyance pipe cost
of $2.2 million. Sewer separation would create more
construction related disruption in this area and would
introduce 100% of the polluted stormwater into Harbor
Brook. The proposed RTF and conveyance system would
capture over 80% of all stormwater as well as combined
sewage. In fact, the existing combined sewer system is
capturing 75% of the stormwater. We believe that this
suggested approach would not only increase the project
cost, but would cause greater disruption to the
neighborhoods in these CSO basin areas and increase
untreated stormwater discharges to Harbor Brook and
Onondaga Lake.
d.
In the Facility Plan, the only underground storage
option reviewed was at Metro with CSO being pumped
there and brought in by conveyances.
Response:
This comment appears to reference Scenario 2 that
looked at conveying all CSO flows to Metro,
rehabilitating the existing tertiary tanks for storage
and providing full treatment. The projected cost for
this option is $125 million.
However, this is not the only storage option that was
investigated. Scenario 9 contains a lower basin
regional storage option for CSOs 003 and 004, Scenario
8 includes offline upstream storage with a vortex (as
currently under construction at Midland) and Scenario
3 looks at storage at Metro for the lower and part of
the middle basin CSOs. All of these scenarios have
higher estimated costs than the County's recommended
plan.
5. Comment:
Suggests that the County may want to provide some form
of compensation to property owners and businesses for
the inconvenience that construction will cause if the
pipe does go down Park Avenue and State Fair
Boulevard? (David Pilat, area resident)
Response:
Under NYS General Municipal Law, the County cannot
provide direct financial compensation to property
owners for inconvenience due to construction. However,
the County can and will ensure that mitigation
measures are implemented to reduce impacts during
construction. These mitigation measures can include:
requiring the contractors to utilize dust control
systems, making sure that construction vehicles have
proper muffler systems, maintaining access for local
traffic, requiring that all excavated areas be covered
to allow entry into driveways by the end of each work
day and restoring and improving areas following
construction. In addition as in other County projects
within the City, the County will work with the
Syracuse City School District concerning bus routes
and pick ups and contact appropriate emergency service
agencies if street detours are needed.
Residents will also be notified when construction will
take place on their street and contact names and
numbers will be supplied so that should issues arise,
residents can bring any concerns to the County's
immediate attention while construction is taking
place.
Comment:
On behalf of fellow County Legislator Althea Chaplin,
the speaker indicated that mitigation measures like
those being discussed and looked into for the Harbor
Brook project should also be remembered for the
Midland project. She doesn't want Midland to be left
out. The speaker asked for a listing of what
mitigation measures people had suggested in the Harbor
Brook project area. He indicated that he knew there
had been a number of meetings where people from the
west side had expressed their opinions on possible
remediations and enhancements. (County Legislator
Edward Ryan)
Response:
Commissioner Elander listed the following suggestions
as received from meeting participants: sidewalks on
Genesee Street in areas not receiving sidewalks under
the "Automobile Row" improvements down to the
underpass and down State Fair Boulevard. Sidewalks on
Grand Ave. and Velasko Road where they do not
currently exist. Funding assistance for necessary
repairs to enable Frazer Pool to be re-opened.
Acquisition of the property on the west corner of
Grand Ave. and Delaware Street where there are
currently two multi-family houses and a former bar to
convert to use as a park, playfield, playground or
similar recreational kind of area. Additionally, he
pointed out the athletic practice fields already
constructed by the County in the retention basin. The
Commissioner noted that the county intends to do as
much as we practically can within the monies made
available through the County Legislature.
7. Question:
The County has said that with underground storage
there would be times when capacity was exceeded and it
would lead to untreated discharges. Is the County
saying that with the vortex technology built for a one
year design storm, there will be no untreated
discharges? (Bruce Block)
Response:
There will not be any untreated discharges from the
RTF. (Elander) For further clarification, as with any
such storage and/or treatment facility to avoid
flooding of the facility in catastrophic wet weather
situations, there will be a diversion structure
upstream of the treatment units of the RTF that will
allow overflows in emergency situations only.
In addition to the oral comments received at the Public Hearing, written comments were received from the following individuals (Copies are available in the printed Appendix):
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Laurence Young and Corinne Kinane, 910 Park Ave.
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Aggie Lane and Tarki Heath on behalf of the Partnership for Onondaga Creek (POC)
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Joseph J. Heath, General Counsel for the Onondaga Nation
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Keith A. Schimel, 330 Apple St.
The following is a list of the questions and comments
raised in the written comments and the County's
responses: (Similar or repeated comments were combined
for response.)
Concern:
Reconsider the use of Park Ave. for the installation
of the conveyance line particularly near the Sacred
Heart Basilica. Consider alternate routes. (Young &
Kinane, Schimel, POC)
The Park Ave. to State Fair route is estimated to
decrease the cost of the project by over $800,000,
affects about the same number of residences as the
Eureka St. route, reduces overall construction time in
that area by reducing pipe length, reduces traffic
impacts associated with constructing 200´ of piping in
the east bound lane of W. Genesee Street and would
eliminate the need to close Eureka Street during
construction. Because Park Ave. is a wider street, it
would not be necessary to close Park Ave. during
construction on that street. These impacts were
considered when the revised route was evaluated.
Therefore for the reasons stated above, it was
concluded that the proposed routing changes using Park
Ave. result in fewer short-term construction impacts
to residents than the Eureka route.
The County has further investigated two other
alternate routes suggested at the hearing and in
written comments including following the brook, and
crossing W. Genesee St. before the intersection with
State Fair Boulevard. Soil conditions along the brook
discourage use of this alternative. Also because of
soil conditions in this area, this alternative
presents potential risks during construction
associated with its nearness to Alan Beyer Auto Sales
Showroom and the covered section of the brook.
The second suggested alternative investigated was
routing the pipe down Park Ave and then crossing W.
Genesee Street before State Fair Blvd. This
alternative would result in use of another adjacent
streetDewey. Like Eureka Street, Dewey is narrow
and construction on the street would necessitate full
closure of that street during construction. Park Ave.
and State Fair Boulevard are wider streets and would
allow vehicular through traffic to continue during
construction.
Following the above conclusions of further
investigation, it was confirmed that the County's
proposed revised alternate conveyance route using Park
Ave to State Fair Blvd. would result in the greatest
cost savings related to reductions in pipe length and
the number of manhole structures needed at bends in
the sewer, would provide the best access for future
maintenance, would present the least disruption to the
neighborhood and offers the best soil conditions
thereby reducing risks to adjacent structures. For
these reasons, the County reaffirms that the Park Ave.
to State Fair Blvd. route for the conveyances is the
recommended and preferred route.
Concern:
Concern about noise during construction. Requests
construction not take place before 8 am. (Young &
Kinane)
The County's contractor must adhere to permitted noise
levels during construction and the construction sites
will be monitored to document that levels are within
required local noise restrictions. The timing of
construction will be specified as part of the County's
contract with the general contractor. Generally,
construction is usually allowed during daylight hours
to give the greatest amount of time for work per day
and allow work to be completed as quickly as possible
and areas disrupted for the fewest number of days.
Area residents will be given names and numbers to call
if there are concerns at the time of construction.
Concern:
Why wasn't the original plan of the Harbor Brook
In-Water System implemented? (Schimel)
The proposed Harbor Brook In-Water System was fully
evaluated during the Facilities Planning process. See
Section 2 of the Facilities Plan. Section 2.2
describes the impediments to implementation of the
in-water system and why it was ruled out as the CSO
abatement plan for Harbor Brook.
Statement:
The County plan calls for 7 above ground sewage
treatment plants (5 FCFs and 2 RTFs) within a mile of
Metro. (Schimel)
All 5 of the floatable control facilities (FCFs)
proposed would be below ground and not above ground.
None of the facilities are full time sewage treatment
facilities like the Metropolitan Treatment Plant which
operates 24-7 and treats sewage in wet weather and dry
weather conditions. The RTFs and the FCFs would only
operate in wet weather conditions when combined sewers
become full and dischargethis would be an estimated
50-60 times per year. The facilities plan does explore
an option using Metro for storage and treatment of
some of the combined sewer flowbut this was not
found to be cost-effective.
Concern:
Disagreement with Recommended Plan as described in the
Facilities Plan and suggest an alternate combination
of technologies. (Schimel, POC and Heath)
The County's Recommended Plan includes: 2 RTFs and 5
FCFs. A total of 10 alternative scenarios were
investigated by the County during the Facilities
Planning process. These alternatives include
combinations of 7 types of abatement technologies. All
of the technologies evaluated within Sections 6 and 7
of the Facilities Plan meet the CSO control and
upgrade program goals within the Amended Consent
Judgment (ACJ). The County is recommending the most
cost-effective alternative that meets all requirements
of the ACJ and will meet State and Federal Clean Water
regulations. The recommended plan would allow for the
implementation of the SUNY ESF sponsored pilot project
to establish sub-surface wetlands in the retention
basin to evaluate wetlands treatment of combined sewer
overflows. The project would require State DEC
approval. To date, the design of the pilot project has
not been completed. The Erie Boulevard Storage System
has no additional capacity to take any of the Harbor
Brook CSO flow as suggested by some commentors.
Storage is not "relatively cheap to construct"
(Schimel). Storage is second only to sewer separation
in total construction costs. In response to concerns
that sufficient nutrient removal will not take place
under the County's plan, it is important to point out
that the plan will meet the ACJ requirements for
nutrient removal. . . .
Concerns:
Indicated concerns about the human impacts of the
County's proposed recommended plan: (Schimel, POC,
Heath)
The FCFs proposed for the Harbor Brook area will not
be net bag systemsthe recommendation would be for
mechanically cleaned screening systems. This type of
FCF was previously installed to handle a CSO near
Teall Ave. and Grant Blvd. on the City's north side
and has proven to be an effective reliable system with
no resultant complaints from neighborhood residents.
Hydrogen sulfide odors currently result from existing
overflows that discharge untreated into Harbor Brook.
By capturing the overflows and transporting the flow
to the storage and treatment facilities planned for
the upper and lower basins, these odors will be
eliminated as the discharges are eliminated and the
new storage and treatment facilities will be fully
enclosed and will have state-of-the-art odor control
systems using activated carbon filters.
The proposed regional storage and treatment facilities
would use liquid chlorine for disinfection of the
treated effluent during those 1620 times a year when
each of the facilities would receive enough flow to
necessitate a treated discharge. The chlorine used
(sodium hypochlorite) is similar to the chlorine
bleach used in homes, businesses and medical
facilities for cleaning and disinfection. Chlorine is
used throughout the country at wastewater and drinking
water facilities to kill harmful bacteria. Chlorine is
used to kill bacteria in swimming pools in backyards,
municipal parks and in schools such as Fowler High
School.
Use of chlorine is an accepted disinfection method for
combined sewer overflows by the State Department of
Environmental Conservation, the Department of Health
and the Federal Environmental Protection Agency. The
chlorine residuals from the proposed RTF will be lower
than the other public uses cited above due to the
addition of a dechlorination step prior to discharge.
The County has eliminated its use of chlorine
treatment and replaced it with ultraviolet
disinfection at Metropolitan Treatment Plant on a 24-7
basis for 100% of the dry weather flow and a portion
of the wet weather flow. An average of 70 million
gallons a day of municipal wastewater is now treated
by the County at Metro through ultraviolet lamps. The
County researched the possibilities of use of
ultraviolet disinfection for CSO facilities and found
it is not effective in the treatment of combined sewer
overflows due to the levels of suspended solids and it
is not cost-effective due to the infrequent
intermittent use with CSOs. However, disinfection
through use of chlorine is safe and effective on CSOs
and these facilities will only use the chlorine for
disinfection about 1620 times per year.
The elimination of untreated combined sewer overflows
into a brook located within a block of Delaware
Academy and thereby mitigating odors and health
concerns in this uncovered area of the brook is a
beneficial change. There will be no negative impacts
to Delaware School or its students.
Concern:
Encourage use of wetlands treatment for CSO in
retention basin and thereby reduce size and need for
RTF at Amy Street. (Schimel, POC, J. Heath)
The County has been communicating with SUNY ESF and
ASLF since 2001 about the proposed wetland treatment
pilot project to test the effectiveness of wetlands
treatment on combined sewer overflows. The County
suggested the County-owned retention basin for
implementation of the demonstration project and has
supported the allocation of federal and state funding
for the project. In addition, the County's Department
of Water Environment Protection laboratory is running
the analysis on the initial field samples collected by
SUNY ESF staff for the design of the project. The
wetlands project was not seen as a replacement to the
Facilities Plan, but has been left as one possible
augmentation to the Plan. Due to the deteriorated
condition of the existing Harbor Brook Interceptor
sewer line in the retention basin area, the pipeline
would need to be replaced from Velasko Road to Fowler
High School to handle dry weather flow alone. . . .
Concern:
Appropriate archeological investigations need to be
done on the revised pipe routes and a representative
of the Onondaga Nation should be present. (J. Heath)
Response:
All archeological field work carried out by the
consultantHartgen Archeological Associates, Inc. for
the County on this project has been done with the
presence and participation of Mr. Tony Gonyea of the
Onondaga Nation as per the County's directive and paid
for through County funds. Should additional
archeological work for the revised routes be necessary
as determined by our archeological subconsultants, Mr.
Gonyea will be contacted for his continued
participation.
Concern:
SPDES permit for Metro must reflect this project. (J. Heath)
Response:
The State Department of Environmental Conservation is
responsible for administration of the SPDES program
and is fully involved and aware of the ACJ program
projects including Harbor Brook. All questions about
the SPDES permit and modifications to such should be
addressed to the NYSDEC.
Concern:
Believes a full EIS is required for this project due
to issues he raises. (J. Heath)
Response:
The draft EID concludes that no detrimental impacts
that cannot be mitigated have been identified as a
result of the proposed project. Other than short-term
impacts related to construction, no significant
adverse environmental impacts have been identified
during the facilities planning and environmental
review process. In addition, the County did not
receive substantive comments during the 30 day comment
periods following the public meetings and the public
hearing that identify potentially significant adverse
environmental impacts that were not previously
identified and assessed or were inadequately assessed
or show a substantial deficiency in the proposed
mitigation measures. Nor specifically do any of the
following issues raised by Mr. Heath constitute any
such unaddressed issues or impacts:
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Environmental impacts of the proposed piping relocation were not assessed . . .
In the Lower basin, the County did assess the impacts
of the revised route and found impacts to be less than
the previous Eureka St. route. See page 6.
In addition, in response to questions and suggestions
from the public, following the hearing, the County
looked into two other possible alternative routes both
of which had more potential impacts than the Park
Ave.- State Fair Blvd.route.
In the Upper Basin, the re-routing of the pipe moves
the pipe only one block over and reduces the length of
pipe to be installed; thereby resulting in a shorter
construction period in this area, reduced costs and
most importantly, reduces the number of residences
impacted during construction.
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EID does not evaluate environmental effects of disinfection by-products
Disinfection of wastewater by use of chlorine followed
by dechlorination through the use of sodium bisulfate
is an approved method of disinfection and
dechlorination under both state and federal water
quality regulations. One purpose of the dechlorination
process is to reduce the production of chlorine
by-products. The residual level of chlorine
by-products in the effluent discharged from the
regional storage and treatment facilities will be well
within safe levels. The discharge will go into the
receiving stream via a discharge pipe.
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Environmental justice
Response: Following completion of the draft EID, the
County has determined that this project will result in
no significant adverse environmental impacts. Any
potential impacts will be temporary and short-term
related to construction. These construction impacts
will be mitigated as much as practicable and in
accordance with applicable local and state ordinances
for noise, dust, street closures, etc. These temporary
impacts will be offset not only by the County's
mitigation measures but in addition, by the overall
environmental benefits brought about by this project
in the closure of 6 CSOs and mitigation of 12 CSOs
that currently discharge into Harbor Brook as it runs
through residential areas on the City's west side.
This project will reduce odors and health concerns to
the area caused by these overflows particularly in the
stretches of the brook that are uncovered in both the
upper and lower basin areas.
In addition, Section 3.1.5 of
the draft Environmental Information Document shows
that the demographics and economics of the Harbor
Brook area are comparable to the demographics and
economics of the City of Syracuse as a whole. As such,
there is no racial, ethnic or socioeconomic group that
would bear a disproportionate share of the project
impacts.
Through public participation activities undertaken by
the County since 2000, the County has sought input
from the area residents on possible mitigation
measures and community enhancements that could be
carried out by the County to benefit the community.
These include installation of sidewalks where none
currently exist thereby improving the safety of the
area. See list of other possible related improvements
above.
Concern:
The ACJ does not preclude redesign of this project. It
is critical that Onondaga County carefully assess its
actions to ensure that the ACJ's goal can be achieved.
(J. Heath)
Response:
The County has planned, developed and constructed all
of its ACJ projects to ensure they meet the ACJ goals.
Carrying an estimated total cost at this time (1/06)
of over $458 million, all work that the County is
required to perform under the ACJ is subject to the
review and approval of the State DEC prior to
initiation of such work. (See ACJ page
19Transmission, Review and Approval of submittals).
The State DEC is equally concerned that all ACJ goals
are met as a result of the implementation of the ACJ
as are the other parties to the ACJ including the
Atlantic States Legal Foundation, and the State
Attorney General's office. In addition, although not
signatory to the ACJ, the US Environmental Protection
Agency continues to be actively informed and involved
in implementation of the ACJ from a regulatory and
funding perspective.
Correction/clarification:
A correction to pg. 6 of Mr. Heath's letter, where he
states that "already significant changes have occurred
since the ACJ was adopted . . . remediation of associated
subsites is proceeding apace, including IRMs for CSOs
underlying I-690." These discharges are non-municipal
storm sewers conveying drainage from an industrial
site and are totally unrelated to the County's sewer
system.
Concern/Suggestion:
Proposed alternative to the County's recommended
Facilities Plan that includes the following
componentsa subsurface wetlands treatment system for
CSOs 078 and 018; a regional underground storage tank
located at Amy Street for CSOs 017, 016, 015 and 014;
4 floatables control facilities in the middle basin; 3
sewer separation areas, underground storage for CSOs
004 and 003 at the State Fair Boulevard site, an FCF
for CSO 063 and upgrading of a portion of the
interceptor sewer. Total projected cost of $44.62
million. (Aggie Lane for POC)
Response:
We appreciate the interest and time given by POC to
propose this alternate plan; however we have a number
of issues with the plan and the estimated costs
attached to that plan.
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As addressed above, the County has been supportive of
the planning and implementation of a pilot
demonstration project to test the effectiveness of a
sub-surface wetland treatment system on CSO 018 in the
retention basin along Grand Ave. However, this is a
small-scale pilot project only. It is estimated that a
wetlands treatment system designed to handle flows
from CSOs 078 and 018 would require 34 acres. The
retention basin itself is 35 acres and its primary
function is stormwater retention to prevent downstream
flooding. This primary function could be compromised
by use as a CSO treatment system. In addition, to meet
ACJ requirements, the wetlands treatment would need to
be augmented by floatables removal and disinfection.
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One of the benefits of using subsurface wetlands to
treat CSOs 078 and 018 cited in the POC proposal is
elimination of the construction to install conveyance
pipelines in the upper basin area. Installation of
this pipeline would still need to take place. As cited
in the Facility Plan, the Harbor Brook Interceptor
sewer is deteriorated and needs to be replaced. This
replacement is planned for the length of the
interceptor from Velasko Road along the brook to the
Amy Street facility and past the facility to Fayette
Street. In addition, CSO 014-017 would need to be
brought by conveyances to the interceptor even if the
Amy Street facility was only to be used for storage
for those CSOs as proposed by POC.
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POC agrees with the County Plan to construct Five
Floatables Control Facilities for CSOs 013, 011, 010,
009 and 063. However, proposes to sewer-separate CSO
areas 007, 006A and 005 instead of bringing them into
the lower basin regional treatment and storage
facility as proposed by the County. Additionally, POC
proposes to eliminate CSO 006 and 008 through the Pump
station upgrade described in four of the scenarios
reviewed under the County plan. Thereby, reducing
conveyances and the need for a regional treatment and
storage facility as called for in the County's plan.
The County, in analyzing the 10 scenarios/ combination
of alternative technologies in the Facility Plan,
determined that the most cost-effective and
environmentally sound plan that will meet the ACJ
requirements is the recommended Scenario 5a. This plan
does not include sewer separation that is costly and
would be much more disruptive during construction in
the residential and business areas of the Lower Basin
including areas along Park Ave., Eureka, Richmond,
Sackett, Geddes and West Genesee Streets. This sewer
separation would disrupt considerably more residences
and businesses than the conveyance line proposed by
the County.
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There is no data to support the POC's statement that
their proposal would be "cheaper to maintain" than the
County's proposal. The major difference is the use of
regional storage in lieu of RTFs. Storage would still
require pumps to move the stored CSO to Metro as would
the RTFs. Storage tanks will also require cleaning,
odor control and other maintenance as the RTFs. The
sewer separation in POC's plan would require
maintenance of the new sewer lines just as maintenance
would be required for the new conveyance line in the
County's plan.
The following is a listing of disagreements with POC's cost estimates:
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The county estimate for a storage tank for CSOs 003 and 004 in the lower basin of Harbor Brook is included in Scenario 9 and is listed at an estimated cost of $26.3 million including a 25% contingency and 25% engineering, legal and administrative
factors. Using this cost would increase the POC's proposed plan by $6.4 million.
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POC's estimate for conveyances for CSO 003 and 004 is $1 million. The County's estimate for the same conveyances is $3.45 million including the 25% contingency and 25% engineering, legal and administrative costs (ELA).
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By adding the 25% contingency and 25% ELA, the estimated cost of POC's subsurface wetlands treatment increases to $2.34 million.
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Conveyances would still be needed for the Upper Basin RTF and the Harbor Brook Interceptor sewer line would still need replacement as called for in both the POC and County plan.
However, the POC plan estimated that cost at $2.34 million whereas the cost of the entire length of interceptor replaced would be $2.34 plus $8.9 m ($5.7m including 25% contingency and 25% ELA) that would bring the estimated cost to
$11.24 million.
In summary, the POC proposal would cost $63.2 million
as compared to the County's proposal for $55.2
million.
The POC proposal would:
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Be more disruptive of the neighborhoods where
sewer separation is proposed vs. the County's planned
installation of a conveyance line
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Would cost substantially more
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Would increase overall construction time
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Would be predicated on the successful operation
of a technology (subsurface wetlands treatment) that
would not be implementable on the site proposed, has
yet to be implemented on a pilot-scale at the site and
as yet, is not an established proven method for CSO
treatment.
The County's recommended plan will enhance the
neighborhoods around Harbor Brook by eliminating the
impacts of the 18 CSOs along Harbor Brook through
sound accepted approvable technologies that will meet
the ACJ requirements and goals. The County is
committed to continuing to work with area residents to
ensure areas are restored to better condition than
before the County project and mitigation measures are
adopted and amenities are constructed as discussed.
Susan A. Miller, January 2006
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